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How Is a Reorder RFQ Different From a First-Order RFQ?

A first-order enquiry asks can you make this. A reorder enquiry asks will this be the same as last time. That difference changes the fields, the attachments, the sampling question and the way the quote is read. This article sets out both documents side by side, and the six items a reorder enquiry must carry.

Two enquiry documents side by side
Two enquiries: one opens a style, the other cites a revision and a previous run number.
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['MOQ 500 pcs per style and colourway; 300 pcs open to discussion on a repeat.', 'Sampling 6-10 working days from a signed-off tech pack.', 'Bulk production 35-50 days from written sample approval.', 'Inspection at AQL 2.5, ISO 2859-1, General Inspection Level II.', 'T/T 30/70, FOB Xiamen; CIF and DDP available.', 'A reorder enquiry cites a revision and a run number; a first-order enquiry cannot.', 'MOQ 500 pcs per style and colourway; 300 pcs open to discussion on a repeat.']

Most buyers send the same enquiry template on a repeat that they sent the first time. It works, in the sense that it produces a quote, and it throws away the single advantage a reorder has: the existence of an approved run with recorded measurements.

A first-order enquiry is a development request. A reorder enquiry is a control document. The first asks whether something can be made and at what price; the second asks whether something will be repeated, under which revision, against which retained reference, and what has changed since the last run.

What Question Does a First-Order RFQ Ask?

It asks four things: can this be made, what will it cost, how long will it take, and how much is the minimum. Those are development questions, and they are answered by sampling, costing and a calendar. Nothing can be compared, because nothing exists yet.

Because nothing exists yet, the first enquiry has to carry the full description: drawings, materials, construction, artwork, quantity, target price, incoterm and destination. Every field is open, and every open field is a decision someone will make later, usually under time pressure.

The first enquiry also has to establish the commercial baseline: what the minimum is, what the sampling charge is, what the tooling costs, and how the calendar reads including sampling. Those four are open questions on a first order and settled facts on a repeat, which is a large part of why the repeat should be quicker to quote.

That openness is also why a first-order quote takes longer to arrive and longer to trust. Every field carries an assumption, and an assumption in a quote is a decision that will be made later by whoever happens to be holding the order.

What Question Does a Reorder RFQ Ask?

It asks four different things: will this match the approved run, under which revision, with which materials, and what has changed since the last one. Price and calendar matter, but they are the fourth and fifth questions rather than the first and second.

That reordering of the questions is the whole point. A repeat enquiry that leads with price invites a quote built to a price, which is where unrecorded substitutions come from. A repeat enquiry that leads with the revision invites a quote built to a specification.

Which Fields Carry Over and Which Drop Away?

Carry over: quantity, incoterm, destination, packing requirement and the required documents. Drop away: the drawing package, the material discovery, the artwork development and the construction discussion - all of which were resolved at approval and now live in the spec file.

One field behaves differently and is worth calling out: the minimum. On a first order it is a discovery, because nobody knows yet what the material purchases will allow. On a repeat it is a known figure with a known exception, and the enquiry should say which of the two the booking falls under.

Ten fields, and how each one changes between the first enquiry and a repeat
FieldFirst-order enquiryReorder enquiry
Style descriptionFull drawing package and construction notesStyle code, colourway and revision number
MaterialsOpen, to be proposed and sampledComponent register, with any proposed change flagged
ArtworkFiles supplied, method to be proposedRevision of the artwork file, already approved
ReferenceNone exists yetRetained gold sample and retained panels
TolerancesTo be proposed during samplingTolerance table, already agreed
SamplingRequired, 6-10 working days from a signed-off tech packOnly if something changed
InspectionLevel to be agreedAQL 2.5 under ISO 2859-1, Level II, as before
QuantityAt or above the standard minimumAt or above it, or a discussed quantity on a repeat
Price basisOpen, built from a cost breakdownCompared with the previous run and any change explained
CalendarSampling plus bulk, 35-50 days from approvalBulk only, 35-50 days from written approval

What Must a Reorder Enquiry Cite?

Six items: the style code, the colourway, the revision number of the spec file, the run number it follows, the quantity, and the incoterm. Those six let the quote be built against a known starting point rather than against a memory of what was made last time.

The six items on a reorder enquiry

  • Style code and colourway, exactly as written on the spec file.
  • Revision number of the spec file the run is to be made to.
  • The run number this booking follows, so the comparison sheet can be found.
  • Quantity, and whether it is at or above the standard minimum.
  • Incoterm and destination, even when they are unchanged.
  • Any known change: a component at risk, an artwork revision, or a packing change.

The third of those items is the one usually missing, and it is the one that makes the others usable. A quote that cites the previous run number can be checked against that run's comparison sheet, which is the fastest way to see whether a price change is a material change.

Where the buyer has never quoted a repeat before, the first repeat enquiry is also the moment to ask for the comparison sheet from the previous run if it was never sent. Getting it then costs nothing; asking for it after a dispute has started costs a great deal more and produces a document written under pressure.

Add a seventh item where the programme has agreed one: the inspection requirement, stated as a sampling plan and a defect classification rather than as a level. That is the sentence that makes the inspection comparable between runs rather than improvised on the day.

How Is Price Quoted on a Repeat?

Ideally as the previous price plus a stated explanation for any movement: a material cost change, a quantity change, a specification change or a currency movement. Four possible reasons, and a repeat quote that cites which one applies can be checked in minutes.

A repeat quote that simply arrives at a new number is harder to read, because a lower figure and a higher figure are both ambiguous. The question is not whether the number moved but what moved it, and that question has an answer only when the quote says so.

Ask for the quote to name the component lines that changed, even where the price did not. A repeat quote that lists zero changed lines is a strong statement and worth having in writing, because it is the sentence that makes a later substitution a breach rather than a misunderstanding.

Where the quantity changes, ask for the price effect separately from any material effect. Ask also whether the smaller quantity changes the dye-lot or the trim purchase, because a quantity that drops below a mill or a trim minimum can force a second purchase with a different lot, which is a consistency risk rather than a cost one. Quantity moves the unit figure through setup and marker efficiency; material moves it through the purchase. Separating the two is what lets a buyer see whether a smaller order is being quoted on the same specification.

What Changes About Sampling on a Reorder?

Usually nothing needs sampling at all. Where the style, the materials, the construction and the revision are unchanged and the retained reference is intact, the repeat goes straight to bulk, which is 35-50 days from written approval, and the comparison happens at inspection.

Where something has changed, sampling is 6-10 working days from a signed-off tech pack, or 12-15 working days for a complex style. That is the honest window, and it is worth booking deliberately rather than hoping the repeat can skip it.

Repeat booking calendar with bulk window marked
The repeat calendar: bulk 35-50 days from written approval, with sampling only where something changed.

Why Does Quantity Below the Standard Minimum Get Discussed?

The standard is 500 pcs per style and colourway, because below that the material purchases, the machine setup and the cutting marker stop being efficient. On a repeat, 300 pcs is open to discussion, because the pattern, the markers, the tooling and the references already exist.

What makes the smaller quantity viable is precisely the fact that nothing has to be developed. That is the trade: the buyer gets a lower quantity and the programme keeps a single revision, a single register and a single retained reference.

There is a second reason the smaller quantity is easier on a repeat: the material purchases are already understood. On a first order the buyer is also paying for the uncertainty in those purchases, because a mill minimum, a dye-lot minimum and a trim minimum all have to be absorbed into one run.

The trade-off to be honest about is that a smaller quantity changes the inspection arithmetic. A smaller lot takes a smaller sample under ISO 2859-1, which means the same acceptance quality limit is being judged on less evidence, and a buyer who cares about a property should say so rather than accept the smaller sample by default.

What Should Be Attached to a Reorder Enquiry?

Four attachments: the spec file revision being ordered, the component register if any line is under review, the previous comparison sheet if the buyer wants the new run matched to it, and the packing and marking requirement. Four files, one message.

Six attachments to a repeat enquiry, and what each one prevents
AttachmentWhy it is attachedWhat happens when it is missing
Spec file revisionStates what the run is made toThe quote is built against a memory
Component registerShows which lines are loose or at riskSubstitutions are decided during production
Previous comparison sheetGives the reference readings for the matchThe new run is compared with nothing
Packing and markingCarton, labelling and pallet requirementThe carton changes silently between runs
Inspection requirementSampling plan and defect classificationThe inspection is improvised on the day
Document requirementWhich certificates and reports travel with the goodsDocuments are requested after shipment

How Is the Quote Compared With the Previous One?

Line by line, in four columns: the previous figure, the new figure, the difference, and the stated reason. Where a reason is missing, ask before ordering rather than after. The reason is the part that tells you whether the product has changed.

Compare the specification lines as well as the price lines. A quote can hold the price and change the material, and that is the substitution that costs the most, because it is invisible in the only column most buyers read.

Where the two quotes differ on the specification, resolve that before ordering rather than after. A specification difference agreed in an email and never written into the file is the origin of most disputes about what a repeat was supposed to be, and it is the least expensive disagreement a programme will ever have.

Keep both quotes filed together. A quote comparison that survives to the next booking becomes the price history of the style, and it is the fastest way to see whether a figure that moved last year was a material change that has since been reversed or a permanent shift in the cost base.

What Mistakes Cost the Most on a Reorder Enquiry?

Five, in descending order of cost: not citing the revision, not naming the previous run, not flagging a component that is known to be at risk, not attaching the packing requirement, and asking for a price without asking what changed to produce it.

All five are clerical and all five cost little to fix at the enquiry stage. None of them is inexpensive once the run has been cut, which is the argument for spending an extra ten minutes on the document that starts it.

The difference in one line

A first enquiry buys a product. A repeat enquiry buys a repeat - and it can only do that if it names the revision it is repeating.

Repeat enquiry with revision and run number on top
The repeat enquiry: revision and previous run number on the first line, before the quantity.

Send us the revision, not the drawing

Send the style code, the revision you are reordering and the run it follows. We coordinate production against that revision, bulk in 35-50 days from written approval, inspected at AQL 2.5 under ISO 2859-1.

Frequently Asked Questions

How is a reorder enquiry different from a first-order enquiry?

The first asks can this be made and what will it cost. The repeat asks will this match the approved run, under which revision, with which materials, and what has changed. Price and calendar drop from first and second question to fourth and fifth.

What must a reorder enquiry cite?

Six items: style code, colourway, the revision number of the spec file, the run number it follows, the quantity, and the incoterm. The run number is the one usually missing and it is what makes the previous comparison sheet findable.

Which fields carry over from the first enquiry?

Quantity, incoterm, destination, packing requirement and the required documents. The drawing package, material discovery, artwork development and construction discussion all drop away, because they were resolved at approval and now live in the spec file.

Does a reorder need sampling?

Usually not, where the style, materials, construction and revision are unchanged and the retained reference is intact. Where something changed, sampling is 6-10 working days from a signed-off tech pack, or 12-15 working days for a complex style.

How long does a repeat take?

Bulk production is 35-50 days from written sample approval. Where nothing has changed and no sample is needed, the calendar is the bulk window alone, which is the main schedule advantage a repeat has over a first order.

What is the minimum quantity on a repeat?

The standard is 500 pcs per style and colourway. On a repeat 300 pcs is open to discussion, because the pattern, the markers, the tooling and the retained references already exist and nothing has to be developed.

How should a repeat quote be read?

Line by line in four columns: previous figure, new figure, difference, and the stated reason. Compare the specification lines as well as the price lines, because a quote can hold the price and change the material, which is the most expensive kind of change.

What should be attached to a repeat enquiry?

Four files: the spec file revision being ordered, the component register where any line is under review, the previous comparison sheet if the new run is to be matched to it, and the packing and marking requirement.

Why does a repeat quote sometimes come back higher?

Four possible reasons: a material cost change, a quantity change, a specification change or a currency movement. Ask which one applies before ordering, because the reason tells you whether the product has changed as well as the price.

What is the most expensive mistake on a repeat enquiry?

Not citing the revision, followed by not naming the previous run, not flagging a component known to be at risk, not attaching the packing requirement, and asking for a price without asking what produced it. All five are clerical.

Should a repeat enquiry lead with price?

No. A repeat enquiry that leads with price invites a quote built to a price, which is where unrecorded substitutions begin. Lead with the revision and the reference and the quote is built to a specification instead.

How is the inspection requirement stated on a repeat?

State the sampling plan and the defect classification rather than a level. Under ISO 2859-1, AQL 2.5 at General Inspection Level II gives a sample size from the lot size, and the classification says what counts as critical, major and minor.

People Also Ask

What should a repeat order enquiry include?

Style code, colourway, the spec file revision, the previous run number, the quantity, the incoterm, plus the spec revision, the component register, the previous comparison sheet and the packing requirement as attachments.

Do you need a new sample for a repeat order?

Usually not, where nothing has changed and the retained reference is intact. Sampling is needed when a component is discontinued, a tolerance is widened, the construction changes, or the approved run is more than the agreed period old.

Why is the reorder price different from the first order?

Four possible reasons: material cost, quantity, specification or currency. Ask which applies before ordering - a price held while the material changes is the most expensive outcome a repeat can produce.

What is the minimum order quantity for a repeat?

500 pcs per style and colourway is the standard. On a repeat, 300 pcs is open to discussion because the pattern, markers, tooling and retained references already exist and no development is needed.

How do you compare two quotations for the same bag?

In four columns: previous figure, new figure, difference and stated reason - and compare the specification lines as well as the price, because a material change can hide inside an unchanged price.

Sources and further reading

Every figure on this page is either our own programme data or attributed below. Open the originals before you write them into a specification.